Jay opens part two with a discussion on the 4:44 track “Smile,” which features a spoken word portion from Jay’s mother Gloria Carter. “My mom has been dope her whole life,” Jay said. “She’s just a dope person. Listen to her, she sounds like Maya Angelou. Her pacing, her voice.”

The interview also touches on Jay’s newest children, twins Rumi and Sir. He explains the derivation of their names, and discusses planning his upcoming tour around their births. He also expresses pride in his recent induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame (though he says that they “might have missed” other hip-hop titans like Rakim, LL Cool J, and KRS-One).


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